| The Book of Lieh-Tzu |  | Author: Lie Zi
Publisher: Mandala
Category: Book
Buy Used: $3.74
Rating:  9 reviews
Sales Rank: 2713776
Media: Paperback
Edition: New Ed
Pages: 192
ISBN: 1852741074
EAN: 9781852741075
ASIN: 1852741074
Publication Date: August 22, 1991
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 The Yellow Emperor Learns How to Dream September 25, 2005
3 out of 3 found this review helpful
In The Book of Lieh-tzu - the third and least-known of the Taoist classics (with the Tao Te Ching and the book of Chuang-tzu) - dreaming is quite literally the royal road to knowledge of higher worlds, and the preferred path into the afterlife.
The most interesting material on dreams is a story of a dream journey by the Yellow Emperor and the collection of tales in the chapter titled "King Mu of Chou".
The Yellow Emperor found in a dream what he had been unable to find in meditation and ascetic practice - full access to a spiritual realm beyond the setting sun, whose inhabitants "ride space as though walking the solid earth". Winged by his knowledge, he reputedly "rose into the sky" at the end of his reign.
The story of King Mu is an interesting variant on the theme that "life is a dream". Holding on to the sleeve of a powerful magician, he travels to an amazing pleasure-palace above the clouds and enjoys himself there tremendously for "twenty or thirty years" before the magician invited him to go to a higher place, which he finds terrifying (because he is clearly not ready!). He is hurled back into his own palace to find only seconds of ordinary time have elapsed.
Instead of dismissing the dream journey as illusion, the author leads us to reflect that the dream world is no less real (or unreal) than the physical world and that for many of us the great game is to approach all experience as if it might be a dream - and have the malleability and magic of the dream world.
 I Threw This Book Away May 12, 2005
6 out of 20 found this review helpful
I seem to be in a minority here, but I disliked this book so much I didn't even finish it. It now resides at the bottom of my trash can.
Don't get me wrong, I'm somewhat of a "born-again Taoist." The Lao-Tzu saved my life, and between that and Thomas Merton's "The Way of Chuang-Tzu," my entire life philosophy and outlook has shifted radically.
The hard part is conveying the reasons for my distaste of this book. It may be because the only real redeeming parts are those directly copied from the Lao and Chuang Tzu. It may be because, after reading Merton's explaination of the "three in the morning" analogy, I cannot agree with A.C. Graham's translation, both in feeling and in words. Far, far too literal and intellectual. Taoism is, for me, about not trying to understand things, but rather letting them be.
If you are a scholar and writing papers or such, it might be good for you. For the spiritual seeker, if you need more Taoist thought, I would recommened reading different translations of the Lao-Tzu or Chuang-Tzu. It's really all you need.
 An outstanding Taoist contribution February 1, 2005
2 out of 2 found this review helpful
Graham has given us a very readable, enjoyable English version of a major Taoist work. Lieh Tzu followed Lao Tzu and Chuang Tzu as the third major Toaist writer, at least as Western readers understand.
This can't be read wholly at face value, as Graham explains. Lieh often co-opted Confucius as a spokesman for Lieh's teachings, a standard technique when reference to the old sages was required. Graham gives plenty of notes showing where that happened, and how. Lieh also took over some of Chuang's teachings, but in Lieh's own way. That was a time when many competing schools fought against each other, but none could fight against the ancient sages or the dominant Confucians - it wasn't subterfuge, but accomodation of Lieh's views to his reading audience.
This is a readable, but often contradictory text. Graham starts each chapter with a bit of explanation. I do wish that he had more clearly set his commentary off from Lieh's text, though. Graham makes up for that lack of clarity by showing which parts of the text were most likely later accretions. For many reasons, these old Chinese texts are often the writing of many hands, not all of whom agreed with each other, and Graham helps us unwind which writing is which.
Through it all, Lieh's voice dominates. He is serene and practical. He often spins tales of immortals flying through clouds and living on dew, but more often describes ferrymen or shepherds. He preaches submission to The Way, but the book also describes a hedonsitic fatalsim - if destiny has already declared my future, then why should I not drink and be merry? This is where Graham's notes are most helpful, in sorting out which is the original text from and which parts were added by unknown authors.
If you have already read the Chuang Tzu, I strongly recommend Lieh. Lao Tzu was a poet, Chuang Tzu was a story-teller, but Lieh Tzu was very earth-bound and practical Graham has done a good job of making the work accessible, while giving the scholar room to study Lieh more deeply.
-- wiredweird
Much superior to Lao Tzu December 20, 2004
6 out of 10 found this review helpful
Again, this is a book about practical taoism. I am not saying that readers should avoid Lao Tzu, but they should also read other taoist books which better explain how to include taosim in everyday life. Do avoid Ms Wong's version though: she takes too much liberty with the text.
Lieh Tzu November 18, 2004
5 out of 6 found this review helpful
The Lieh Tzu is a fascinating early Chinese Taoist text that contains a variety of stories, essays, and conversations that provide interesting and unique viewpoints, and examines topics such as life, death, human nature, the human experience, philosoohy, the right way of life, morality, mysticism, cosmology, science, etc.
The book's purported author is the Taoist Sage Lieh Tzu (lived 400s BC)--but it actually seems to be a more or less anonymous text that includes material from a variety of sources and time periods.
The book is very perspective expanding, and overall promotes what you would generally expect of the Taoist philosophy, such as being a recluse, living out your course, following and using Tao in all aspects of your life, not allowing your personal purity to be tainted, and so on.
Chapter 7, the Yang Chu Chapter, is also rather distinct, since it features teachings attributed to the ancient Chinese philosopher Yang Chu (Lived c500s BC) and his Yangist school, and is one of few surviving texts that mention the man and his school's doctrine
(But keep in mind that modern scholars generally do not consider most of the chapter's content to represent authentic Yangism)
The English Lieh Tzu translations I know of are:
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The Book of Lieh-Tzu
A.C. Graham
Yang Chu's Garden of Pleasure (Yang Chu Chapter only)
Anton Forke
1912
Taoist Teachings Translated from the Book of Lieh-Tzu (Contains about 1/3 of the text)
Lionel Giles
1912
Lieh-Tzu: A Taoist Guide to Practical Living (Very Loose Translation)
Eva Wong
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I recommend all of these editions.
Rodney Ohebsion
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